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post #1 of 9 Old 06-11-2017, 04:52 PM Thread Starter
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New 2017 MKC 2.0t AWD Reserve

We just received our new Ruby tint MKC Reserve three days ago. I have owned Ford products in the past with hit and miss reliability but I decided to give them another chance.

The initial drive in the MKC was nice. The car seemed quiet and composed. Interior materials made a good first impression. Dealers...not so much.

I was very afraid that I would end up regretting my decision at the time I did it, but I was sucked in by the relatively low price and high feature content. So here at three days, I'm a little more worried than ever. First, let me preface by saying that we just sold back a 2012 VW Touareg TDi Lux to the VW. That is the quality standard by which the Lincoln is being judged.

At three days:
1) The halo is wearing off...interior materials and fit/finish are clearly lower quality than the VW. Door panel plastic could have come from a Fiesta.
2) Plastic piece above the steering column and below the instrument panel fits poorly. Seems like that all I can see when I get in now.
3) A dash rattle...that's right...a dash rattle. Seriously?
4) No subwoofer in a 1k audio option...again seriously?
5) Car is much noisier and less composed on rougher roads than I expected.
6) autosteering headliights...my Touareg had them and even much cheaper Subaru's have them. Why not the MKC?

In all, I was afraid I would be disappointed moving from the Touareg to Lincoln MKC. It appears my fears are well founded. I hope the future brings a better experience than it has so far.
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If your 1K audio option is the THX system the woofers are in the doors no need for a sub in the rear.

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I'm very confused about your post. Other than the rattle in the dash, which probobly would have been noticed on a properly observed test drive, everything else you list was right there in front of you and not hidden. You're complaining like a victim of a bait and switch. You spent more than $30,000 without proper research and or observation on what was important to you, and now you're going to complain about not having certain options and materials. If your post was why you didn't buy the MKC, it would make much more sense.
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I'm very confused about your post. Other than the rattle in the dash, which probobly would have been noticed on a properly observed test drive, everything else you list was right there in front of you and not hidden. You're complaining like a victim of a bait and switch. You spent more than $30,000 without proper research and or observation on what was important to you, and now you're going to complain about not having certain options and materials. If your post was why you didn't buy the MKC, it would make much more sense.
Hardly a victim. Given that I had to travel two hours to a decent dealer, I couldn't spend all flippin day driving around (more like sitting in) in traffic on smooth metro roads. The dealer THEN had to locate and transport the car I really wanted. So, very little time with the actual car I bought.

No, the rattle was not evident until I got it on rough ripply pavement twenty miles from the dealer. I would expect a Lincoln that costs $46,000 to not rattle. Neither of my last two Touaregs ever rattled in the eight years between them. My Honda Accord has never rattled since it was new in 2007. Is that so much to expect?

However, there are some features that you become used to in a more expensive car and you don't miss them until they're gone...e.g. autosteering headlamps and cargo area rear seat releases. Cheaper cars have both of these, so cost is not the issue.

Like I prefaced my post...I was hoping that my step down to a Lincoln from a VW (seriously - the Touareg is not your garden variety VW) would not be fraught with quality issues. Many of those don't become apparent until you've lived with the car for a while...like poor bass response from a $1000 audio system.

I would ask you, have you previously owned a BMW/Porsche/Audi/Mercedes? Can you genuinely understand the difference? The Lincoln is a fantastic car if all you've ever known are entry level cars, but it struggles in this rarified league. It drove the sales people nuts when they would show off a feature that they expected to impress me but I already had on the five year old car I was selling back.

I'll keep telling myself..."It was $10k cheaper!" Maybe I'll eventually feel better about it. Then I turn on the Air Conditioned seats and feel a lot better about it

Don't be confused...I took a gamble. I'd like to say I hit the lotto...but maybe I expected too much.

In any event, the Lincoln is overall a very nice car, but it's not in the same league as it's German competitors. It takes living with both of them to understand that. Knowing what I know today, I think I would have gone for the extra $10k for an X3 or even a gas Touareg. But I have signed the papers and I'm committed to the purchase. I have to live with it.

I'm sure there are many who have horror stories about their German cars who will refute my assertions, but I only know my experience with a BMW and two Touaregs. My experience with Fords have involved three major transmission failures. Despite some minor technical issues, the German cars were a pleasure to own and drive. I am hoping that the Lincoln grows on me the longer I own it.

I took the risk...I own the consequences. But I think it's ok to share that experience with other folks considering the Lincoln.
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Hardly a victim. Given that I had to travel two hours to a decent dealer, I couldn't spend all flippin day driving around (more like sitting in) in traffic on smooth metro roads. The dealer THEN had to locate and transport the car I really wanted. So, very little time with the actual car I bought.

No, the rattle was not evident until I got it on rough ripply pavement twenty miles from the dealer. I would expect a Lincoln that costs $46,000 to not rattle. Neither of my last two Touaregs ever rattled in the eight years between them. My Honda Accord has never rattled since it was new in 2007. Is that so much to expect?

However, there are some features that you become used to in a more expensive car and you don't miss them until they're gone...e.g. autosteering headlamps and cargo area rear seat releases. Cheaper cars have both of these, so cost is not the issue.

Like I prefaced my post...I was hoping that my step down to a Lincoln from a VW (seriously - the Touareg is not your garden variety VW) would not be fraught with quality issues. Many of those don't become apparent until you've lived with the car for a while...like poor bass response from a $1000 audio system.

I would ask you, have you previously owned a BMW/Porsche/Audi/Mercedes? Can you genuinely understand the difference? The Lincoln is a fantastic car if all you've ever known are entry level cars, but it struggles in this rarified league. It drove the sales people nuts when they would show off a feature that they expected to impress me but I already had on the five year old car I was selling back.

I'll keep telling myself..."It was $10k cheaper!" Maybe I'll eventually feel better about it. Then I turn on the Air Conditioned seats and feel a lot better about it

Don't be confused...I took a gamble. I'd like to say I hit the lotto...but maybe I expected too much.

In any event, the Lincoln is overall a very nice car, but it's not in the same league as it's German competitors. It takes living with both of them to understand that. Knowing what I know today, I think I would have gone for the extra $10k for an X3 or even a gas Touareg. But I have signed the papers and I'm committed to the purchase. I have to live with it.

I'm sure there are many who have horror stories about their German cars who will refute my assertions, but I only know my experience with a BMW and two Touaregs. My experience with Fords have involved three major transmission failures. Despite some minor technical issues, the German cars were a pleasure to own and drive. I am hoping that the Lincoln grows on me the longer I own it.

I took the risk...I own the consequences. But I think it's ok to share that experience with other folks considering the Lincoln.
Actually the X3, Q5 and GLA are not German made cars at all they are German Branded cars, X3 made in South Carolina, Q5 made in Mexico, GLA made in Hungary, enjoy paying a premium for a German Branded Car.

For the record, I love German Cars and own one now and have owned them for over 30 years. German CUV's and SUV's are not all that compared to their cars. I fully intended to buy a German SUV/CUV but ended up buying the MKC instead after driving all the choices of CUV's and SUV's.

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I understand the difference between an Aprilla and a Kawasaki, the differecne between a good steak house and Outback, a SIG Sauer and a Taurus and a Mercedes and a Lincoln. There is a reason there is a price differecne, you can't pay for the cheaper one and expect the the level of the other. Kinda like expecting a door mounted "subwoofer" producing the same level of performance of a properly installed subwoofer.
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"Kinda like expecting a door mounted "subwoofer" producing the same level of performance of a properly installed subwoofer."




A sub-woofer plays more of a role in home theater as opposed to listening to music, Its the .1 in a 5.1 or 7.1 surround system. My McIntosh home theater system will not use the sub-woofer when listening to pure stereo with stunning results. Again with proper equalization (per THX) and high performing speakers, a sub-woofer is not needed.
THX DISTRIBUTED BASS TECHNOLOGY™

Distributed Bass Technology by THX utilizes specialized sound processing that combines the output from door-mounted woofers to produce accurate, uniform bass throughout the vehicle cabin.
DBT replaces the single subwoofer in vehicles with multiple smaller drive units – usually four, one in each corner. Global optimization algorithm determines the
optimum EQ to each driver from the DSP / amplifier to provide uniform bass in
all seats.
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Ummmmmm, OK. Seems your disatisfaction is rather trivial. Had my MKC since November, no problems and still enjoy driving it.
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We are coming up on the 2 year mark on our 2016 MKC Reserve - So far we are very pleased.
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