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post #1 of 19 Old 06-18-2014, 10:21 AM Thread Starter
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2015 Lincoln MKC First Impression review (by auto123.com) - Issue with front seats?

Another review of the 2015 Lincoln MKC popped up on the internet today, the latest one being posted by auto123.com. Here's the link:

http://www.auto123.com/en/lincoln/mk...1&artid=168605

It is generally a very positive review, with mention of "Lincoln hits one out of the park". However the author does take issue with a "too short" lower seat cushion length on the MKC's front seats. Here's a copy/paste of the specific criticism:

"A massive plus and minus throughout the drive were the seats. The seatbacks demonstrated comfort and support, ideal for holding the occupants in place during the assault on switchbacks. Unfortunately, the lower seat cushions are far too short for the average 59 man. They are, however, perfect for the average woman, which will most likely be the buyer of the MKC".

Hmm.. so the average-sized woman will most likely be the typical buyer of the MKC?! Interesting conclusion. It might follow then that the MKC's front seats were principally designed to best accommodate an average-sized woman rather than an average-sized man?

For those forum members who have already sat in and perhaps driven the MKC, what were your impressions of the lower seat cushion with regard to length? Sufficient or insufficient? If the lower seat cushion is indeed too short (for anyone who is 5'9" or taller) that could spell trouble for thigh/leg support and comfort, particularly on long trips. Is this a true issue?.. or is it a non-event /exaggeration?

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Those of us in the long "waiting-period" for our pre-orders to arrive are very fortunate to have this Forum, and the inclusion of the many reviews from the MKC's press event in Santa Barbara, CA a couple of weeks ago.

I need to recheck:

+Length of seat cushion, especially in the front.
+Intrusion of the lower edge of the console on the driver's right leg rest area.
+Rear seat legroom, and rear seat shoulder/hip room.
+Cargo space.
+Jittery S-Mode road behavior.
+Gaps between assembled body parts, especially that specially formed hatch.

Anybody want to add to this list?
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Just a couple of observations/remembrances from my day or so with a early production MKC:

+ Length of Seat Cushion: I am 5'10", about 160 lbs. Not a big guy by any means. That said, I did not notice any problem with the length of the seat cushion. The front seat was probably the most comfortable car seat I've ever sat in. In all the reviews I've read (and I think I've read them all), this is the first time I've heard this one.

+ Intrusion of Lower Edge of Console: same thoughts as above

+ Rear Seat Room: Mentioned in most reviews as being cramped; from my experience, I would agree 100% (though not really an issue for me; my use of the back seat for passengers is mostly limited to short trips and not that often to begin with).

+ Cargo space: Mentioned in some reviews, but my quick observation was that it seemed reasonable to me. I guess it's smaller than the competition (based on published specs) but it seemed adequate in my book.

+ Jittery S-mode road behavior: Again, mentioned in most reviews and I did sense some of that in my test drive. But as long as I can move from S back to "standard" or "comfort" when needed, don't see this as a big issue.

+ Gaps between assembled body parts: Not mentioned in most reviews; fit and finish generally get good reviews. My vehicle was an early production model, and everything seemed well put together to me. Last week, my dealer received his first MKC and I took a look at it and all looked fine (it was black, which may help cover up some gaps, but really it looked A-OK to me).

Everyone has their own preferences and items they focus on; hence, the many different commentaries throughout these various reviews we read. But I have to say I'm not too worried about the items above (the most common and valid item is the rear seat volume, which just didn't come as a big surprise to me). As others have noted, this is a compact CUV, and because of that I guess I wasn't expecting too much there to start with.
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Definitely agree with the impression

I took one out for the Lincoln Date Night promo. It looked like a very nice vehicle until I got inside. As soon as I sat down, I knew it wasn't going to be my next car. I don't understand it at all. I sat in a neighbor's Escape, and seat cushions seem longer. I also have a 2014 Focus (company car) and if they had covered those seats in leather and put it in the MKC, it might well have been my next car. And I am 5'7", not 5'9".

Very disappointed,

ahttps://www.mkcforum.com/forum/images/MKCForum/smilies/tango_face_sad.pngs I had high hopes.
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I am 6' tall and weigh 175lbs and I absolutely agree that the seat bottoms are not long enough, and I knew this in my various test drives, but I bough it anyway. However, I measured the seat against a very comfortable mid sized Murano, and surprisingly enough, the difference was only about 1/2 to 3/4". We have now had the MKC for 3 months and taken a few long trips and I can honestly say that I am totally comfortable...it's not a big deal....you quickly get used to it and don't think about it after the first few weeks of ownership.
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Interesting discussion that highlights an issue which effects our vehicle purchase.

My wife is 5'4", I'm 6'0' so adjustability and ease of doing so is a major factor in vehicle selection. We require electric with memory seats but seat depth effects my wife's comfort considerably.
Screening cars under consideration is very quick as she sits in the drivers seat and if the front of the seat cushion hits her lower leg while in her preferred driver position the vehicle is eliminated. You wouldn't believe some of the solutions suggested from some of the "quick sales types" - well, you probably would.

She "test-fitted" many and drove a few with the MKC coming out on top. We've ordered a 16 MKC which is expected to arrive the first week of Oct and she looks forward to the many features it has. Yes, it is primarily her car but I have found driving vehicles that meet her requirements to be quite comfortable when you try the variety of seat positions offered. I believe overall comfort is based on many angular factors including seat height from the floor as she is quite comfortable riding (never driving) my 14 Corvette which is obviously a much lower overall position.

Hope we're right................
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Interesting discussion that highlights an issue which effects our vehicle purchase.

My wife is 5'4", I'm 6'0' so adjustability and ease of doing so is a major factor in vehicle selection. We require electric with memory seats but seat depth effects my wife's comfort considerably.
Screening cars under consideration is very quick as she sits in the drivers seat and if the front of the seat cushion hits her lower leg while in her preferred driver position the vehicle is eliminated. You wouldn't believe some of the solutions suggested from some of the "quick sales types" - well, you probably would.

She "test-fitted" many and drove a few with the MKC coming out on top. We've ordered a 16 MKC which is expected to arrive the first week of Oct and she looks forward to the many features it has. Yes, it is primarily her car but I have found driving vehicles that meet her requirements to be quite comfortable when you try the variety of seat positions offered. I believe overall comfort is based on many angular factors including seat height from the floor as she is quite comfortable riding (never driving) my 14 Corvette which is obviously a much lower overall position.

Hope we're right................
Picking up our Reserve 300 2016 today! We took a long test drive a couple of weeks ago my wife is 5'0" and I'm 5'10" and found the seats to be pretty comfortable. Much better than our 2011 Edge LTD that we are trading in. Its primarily the wife's car but I will drive it on road trips. I think it will be fine for us. I think if you are 6' plus a MKX would be better.
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Here are some measurements from my '15 MKC Reserve heated/cooled driver's seat and my '15 Escape Titanium. Both taken from back of seat cushion to front of seat cushion...measured same way for each:

MKC: 20 inches
Escape: 21 inches

I noted while visiting a Ford dealer that a '15 Edge Sport and a '16 Explorer Limited measured almost identically the same at roughly 20.25 inches, slightly more than the MKC, but also less than the Escape.

Haven't measured a '16 MKX. Note that it has an optional seat that has an extender making a longer cushion possible.

Haven't driven my MKC nor Escape for more than 1 hour at a time, so really haven't noticed a difference, except that the MKC is much more comfortable, especially due the softness of the leather material.
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Is the leather even real or some fake type of leather?



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Is the leather even real or some fake type of leather?
The MKC brochure advertises that the seats are made of Bridge of Weir Deepsoft leather.

Bridge of Weir is a Scottish based company. They tout themselves as producing leather for high-end luxury.
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