[MrJiggy22]

Hey all,

I have a 2015 MKC (2.0L) at 50,000 miles that has recently been diagnosed with a transmission problem (possibly need to replace). DTC P0751 - Shift Solenoid A Performance or Stuck Off.
The real kicker here is that my powertrain warranty has expired. Literally 1 month ago.

The dealer told me to call Lincoln and ask if they could throw us a bone and extend the warranty for us (or split the cost - anything to help). This of course was a big 'no' on their end. Lincoln then told me to call the dealer to see if they could throw us a bone. So, neither one of them really seem willing to help.

Is there anything that I can do? I know it's out of warranty - but come on man - 1 month?! There has to be something they can do! $5,500 is too much to pay for a car that's just over 50k miles.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Desperately,
-Marco

 

[copbait]

I know my dad had a problem with his transmission outside of warranty. Now he has a 2.3L which is more prone to failure but I am seeing more complaints about problems with the 2.0L lately. Now they were able to do a PCM reflash and he flushed his transmission fluid and it is now "better". We discussed it and he will replace the trans with a used one if it fails but he has about 7K miles on it and it is still going, but it still shifts ... weird.

 

[Buckeye]

It should be drain, drop pan. pull solenoid(one bolt). install new. new gasket and refill properly. Should be a fairly cheap job. I recommend replace both A and B (while there) plus replace tranny filter (and clean magnet and new fluid).

Or find a ATRA or ATSG shop that advertise a nationwide warranty. ATRA - Automatic Transmission Rebuilders Association

If you are afraid of getting screwed. Ask a shop how much to drop pan and replace fluid, filter and both A and B Solenoids. (don't do the flush)

You should not need a whole new tranny.

 

[Buckeye]

this maybe helpful

P0751: Shift Solenoid ‘A’ Performance or Stuck Off DTC Trouble Code

www.transmissionrepaircostguide.com

 

[copbait]

Nice find @Buckeye. That is a great video

 

[MrJiggy22]

Thanks everyone!! I appreciate the help on this one. You are truly the best.

I'll probably ask them to do the repairs as you stated @Buckeye - I'm not the best at this kind of work. But that route is WAY cheaper than a new trans.

 

[Buckeye]

But that route is WAY cheaper than a new trans.

Worst case scenario I would think you need a new valve body or it cleaned out (debris is stuck in it) But the tranny is way too low mileage for it to need a total replaced/rebuilt UNLESS they find metal chunks in it. What are you symptoms? hard shifting? can't shift into 2? (I hope and assume you just don't step on the gas and the whole engine races aka RPM go way up and the car doesn't move an inch.)

my other 2 cents: avoid national chain tranny shops. I would call a reputable busy shop and tell them " I am looking for an estimate. I got a ford product with 50k tranny and the P0571 code. It seems Ford's Solenoid A craps out frequently.... (then go silent and see what their response is. If they say yeah we see that a lot and he can give you a close estimate assuming that is all that is wrong... I think it would be a good honest shop. VS they give you a oh now those trannys need to be completely rebuilt, etc... call someone else.)

 

[MrJiggy22]

@Buckeye - before the DTC code drama, we've always experienced a hard shift from 1 to 2. It wasn't terribly awful, but certainly noticeable.

The symptoms after the DTC are twofold.

1. After reversing and selecting 'Drive', it doesn't do it. It just sits there, then makes a big clunk and then finally shifts into 1.
2. After sitting at a stop sign and wanting to accelerate, it is in no gear at all. It takes it a few seconds to figure it out and go into 1.
   
   

   (I hope and assume you just don't step on the gas and the whole engine races aka RPM go way up and the car doesn't move an inch.)

Yes, your assumption is correct.

my other 2 cents: avoid national chain tranny shops. I would call a reputable busy shop and tell them " I am looking for an estimate. I got a ford product with 50k tranny and the P0571 code. It seems Ford's Solenoid A craps out frequently.... (then go silent and see what their response is. If they say yeah we see that a lot and he can give you a close estimate assuming that is all that is wrong... I think it would be a good honest shop. VS they give you a oh now those trannys need to be completely rebuilt, etc... call someone else.)

So you think i should avoid having the Lincoln dealership do the repairs?

 

[Buckeye]

When outside of warranty I tend to go to an independent shop. Certain things like electrical symptoms I would go to the stealership. A independent shop can drop the pan and say "this does not look good" or "hopefully it's just the solenoid"
I just don't like the sounds of "big clunk" from R to D.

PS keep us updated.

 

[MrJiggy22]

@Buckeye - thank so much for your help! I'll keep you all posted. I'll be calling the dealer in a few hours for an update.

 

[OldGuy]

Hey all,

I have a 2015 MKC (2.0L) at 50,000 miles that has recently been diagnosed with a transmission problem (possibly need to replace). DTC P0751 - Shift Solenoid A Performance or Stuck Off.
The real kicker here is that my powertrain warranty has expired. Literally 1 month ago.

The dealer told me to call Lincoln and ask if they could throw us a bone and extend the warranty for us (or split the cost - anything to help). This of course was a big 'no' on their end. Lincoln then told me to call the dealer to see if they could throw us a bone. So, neither one of them really seem willing to help.

Is there anything that I can do? I know it's out of warranty - but come on man - 1 month?! There has to be something they can do! $5,500 is too much to pay for a car that's just over 50k miles.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Desperately,
-Marco

Surprises me that Lincoln did not offer you anything. I have a 2017 MKC 2.0 and Lincoln was very cooperative when I called them about a transmission issue. It's nothing major but still should not be happening. It shifts really weird at low speeds...as if it's searching for the correct gear. Dealer rebuilt the tranny last year after they found shavings in the fluid. Was okay for a few months but then the same thing began. Took it back in and dealer said nothing wrong.

That's when I called Lincoln and they said to have the dealer drive it for a week. They said an MKC should shift "cleanly, smoothly, and almost undetectably." Mine sure as hell does not!

I am not a tranny expert but it sure seems like it needs a software update or reprogramming or maybe it's a torque converter issue. I'm taking it back in next month. Stay tuned.

If I were you I would call Lincoln again and try to speak to a supervisor or manager or someone with the ability and authority to actually make a decision per your issue.

Good luck.

Old Guy

Hey all,

I have a 2015 MKC (2.0L) at 50,000 miles that has recently been diagnosed with a transmission problem (possibly need to replace). DTC P0751 - Shift Solenoid A Performance or Stuck Off.
The real kicker here is that my powertrain warranty has expired. Literally 1 month ago.

The dealer told me to call Lincoln and ask if they could throw us a bone and extend the warranty for us (or split the cost - anything to help). This of course was a big 'no' on their end. Lincoln then told me to call the dealer to see if they could throw us a bone. So, neither one of them really seem willing to help.

Is there anything that I can do? I know it's out of warranty - but come on man - 1 month?! There has to be something they can do! $5,500 is too much to pay for a car that's just over 50k miles.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Desperately,
-Marco

 

[MrJiggy22]

@Buckeye @OldGuy

Got an update! Below was the broken piece. This is on the big ass cast trans housing.

Apparently there is a ring that snaps into the grooves you can see in the pic. The ring vibrated and broke the piece you can see circled in red. That piece was obviously clanging around on the inside causing all sorts of damage.

The dealer thankfully gave us $1,500 from their "reserves" for situations like this. Which bring my total to $3,400. Not a fun pill to swallow, but at least it's not the full amount.

 

[Buckeye]

I have never heard of a piece breaking off like that. Very odd. Just glad it is fixed and you're happy.

 

[MrJiggy22]

Happy isn't quite the way I'd describe this whole situation, sadly. Paying $3400 for a 50k mile car because of a known issue is pretty infuriating. I'll be selling this car immediately, and likely never buying Lincoln again. (which is disappointing to my parents as well - they both worked at Ford for 40+ years)

But I appreciate all the support of you guys in the forum. You're good peoples. Thanks for all your support!

 

[JoEllen Kevin and Capone]

Hey all,

I have a 2015 MKC (2.0L) at 50,000 miles that has recently been diagnosed with a transmission problem (possibly need to replace). DTC P0751 - Shift Solenoid A Performance or Stuck Off.
The real kicker here is that my powertrain warranty has expired. Literally 1 month ago.

The dealer told me to call Lincoln and ask if they could throw us a bone and extend the warranty for us (or split the cost - anything to help). This of course was a big 'no' on their end. Lincoln then told me to call the dealer to see if they could throw us a bone. So, neither one of them really seem willing to help.

Is there anything that I can do? I know it's out of warranty - but come on man - 1 month?! There has to be something they can do! $5,500 is too much to pay for a car that's just over 50k miles.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Desperately,
-Marco

Our tranny went at 53 thousand anyone can help me I know we aren’t the only ones there is a serious problem with this year and model

 

[copbait]

With the 2.3 L this is a very common problem but I am seeing more people complaining about the 2.0 L, Ford doesn’t recognize this as a problem though on the 2.0L but they’ve done multiple TSB‘s for the 2.3 L

 

[Buckeye]

Didn't they have a recall to reflash the tranny and extended the warranty? was it for a specific engine mounted to it?

 

[copbait]

Didn't they have a recall to reflash the tranny and extended the warranty? was it for a specific engine mounted to it?

Yeah that was the TSB I was referring to, best I understand it’s only the 2.3 L though

 

[JoEllen Kevin and Capone]

Hey all,

I have a 2015 MKC (2.0L) at 50,000 miles that has recently been diagnosed with a transmission problem (possibly need to replace). DTC P0751 - Shift Solenoid A Performance or Stuck Off.
The real kicker here is that my powertrain warranty has expired. Literally 1 month ago.

The dealer told me to call Lincoln and ask if they could throw us a bone and extend the warranty for us (or split the cost - anything to help). This of course was a big 'no' on their end. Lincoln then told me to call the dealer to see if they could throw us a bone. So, neither one of them really seem willing to help.

Is there anything that I can do? I know it's out of warranty - but come on man - 1 month?! There has to be something they can do! $5,500 is too much to pay for a car that's just over 50k miles.

Thanks for your help in advance!

Desperately,
-Marco

Know the feeling I say they full well know there is a definite problem with the 2015 mkc model ours too at 53 thousand took a dump as many others how many does it take for Lincoln to take notice as mine is in the dealership right now not a happy consumer and can’t get passed the person who answers the phone at Lincoln!!!

 

[MirandaJ]

Know the feeling I say they full well know there is a definite problem with the 2015 mkc model ours too at 53 thousand took a dump as many others how many does it take for Lincoln to take notice as mine is in the dealership right now not a happy consumer and can’t get passed the person who answers the phone at Lincoln!!!

My 2015 2.3L is getting a new transmission, 70K miles. Just add me to the list! Ford quoted me $8K to fix.