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Looks like the 2016 MKC is a short run. It looks like there will be some changes in the 2017 MKC that are also appearing in the 2017 Ford Escape which also starts production at the same time. I would suspect the "new" 2.0 will be part of that. Order cutoff for the 2016 is 1/4/16 and you will be able to order a 2017 1/11/16. Look for the 2017 order guides to start showing up after the first of the year.
 

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Wow, why would this be? Maybe they recognize problems still with 2016's and want to move right to the fixes in the 2017's? Do you know the specific changes? Where do you get your insider info :)
What about the MKX? Heard there were a number of issues with it and some halted/slow production. They might as well go right into the 2017's with that too..
 

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Wow, why would this be? Maybe they recognize problems still with 2016's and want to move right to the fixes in the 2017's? Do you know the specific changes? Where do you get your insider info :)
What about the MKX? Heard there were a number of issues with it and some halted/slow production. They might as well go right into the 2017's with that too..
Has more to do with the 2017 Escape since they share plants and 2017 is a refresh for that model. Its a bit early for a MKC refresh. You will probably see the new 2.0 available in the MKC as well as a start-stop feature perhaps across both engines. Maybe some new colors.
 

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My husband might be looking at another Escape and it would be the 2017 ..what do you know about the escape changes?
So your are saying just an update to the 2.0 engine (I get the 2.3, want more power) and what's the stop start feature?
thanks for your info
 

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^^ MB has this technology. Not sure which vehicles besides the e350.
 

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The start-stop feature is starting to appear across various manufactures usually when an engine is upgraded. The Jeep 3.6 will offer start-start. I believe the 2016 3.6 Cadillac offers stars-stop. Again the 2017 Escape gets the revised 2.0 with start-stop so I would assume it will also go into the 2017 MKC. There may also be a couple of changes being implemented in the 2017 Escape (the type you dont see like a revised rear suspension) that may make it into the MKC (or the MKC has it already). Also there appears to be a lot of features in the MKC that seem to be making it into the Escape like some of the technology features and heated steering wheel.

Some of this could be to get the manufacturing of the two models in the plant more similar to increase volume. I read that the MKC may get pulled from the Escape plant because the MKC required more time to manucfacture limiting Escape production.

Here is the info on the various models and build-outs:

Build Out Startup Dates - Donlen Corporation
 

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Thanks for the info blankster.
Yeah it was Mercedes I was reading about the Eco start stop. Also seems a lot of other safety features are becoming standard on the cars as well.
 

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Looking at the link for the 17 Escape, other then the start-stop, the other features read like it comes from the MKC. Seriously, just about every option and tech features that we have will be in the 17 Escape. Personally, I don't like the look of the 17...think it's rather plain vanilla looking. A friend has the stop-start feature in a European car and doesn't like it at all. He says that from a stop the car always gets off slowly until the start feature kicks in. Will be interesting if Ford can master it right out the shoot (doubtful based on our experiences with our C) and whether it will make much of a difference in the MPG, which is the only reason I can see that it would be worthwhile.
 

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Looking at the link for the 17 Escape, other then the start-stop, the other features read like it comes from the MKC. Seriously, just about every option and tech features that we have will be in the 17 Escape. Personally, I don't like the look of the 17...think it's rather plain vanilla looking. A friend has the stop-start feature in a European car and doesn't like it at all. He says that from a stop the car always gets off slowly until the start feature kicks in. Will be interesting if Ford can master it right out the shoot (doubtful based on our experiences with our C) and whether it will make much of a difference in the MPG, which is the only reason I can see that it would be worthwhile.
yeah, I find the Escape design unappealing and like every one else. My husband has a 2013 Titanium Escape which he loves. We have totally opposite tastes in cars. Its more a work car/truck and he in general does not care much about his cars (at least nothing like me) He's up for a new car in 2017 and said he would probably just get another escape. He will be happy - he loves driving my MKC better - that it will be getting upgraded features similar to my MKC, wont be as comfortable though..

Trying to steer him towards the Edge (they buy all Ford trucks, vans for work), I like the new design better than the Escape...
 

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— 19”PremiumPaintedAluminumWheel(646)–Nolonger
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— 19”PremiumPainted5-SpokeAluminumWheel(647)–
Now optional on Reserve AWD (300A)
— 20”PolishedAluminumWheelswithEbonyPainted
Pockets – New Description
— 18”PolishedAluminumWheelonReserve(300A)
changed to Bright Machined – New Description
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liftgate standard on Premiere (100A)
● NewExteriorColors:
— Magnetic(J7)
— PalladiumGold(GN)
— DiamondBlack(W9)–AvailableonReserveonly(300A)
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— CHANGED–Select(200A)–Cappuccino/Espresso
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– Santos Rosewood replaces
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— CHANGED–Select(200A)–Cappuccinocabin
environment – Santos Rosewood replaces Espresso Ash Swirl appliques
 

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I think the statements below from an industry forecasting firm (Current generation Escape and planned next generation production) offer some insight as to where the next generation MKC may show. Meaning you may see a significant change and/or new generation MKC sometime late 2018.

Current‐generation Ford Escape (C520)’s facelift timing has been moved to March 2016 from June 2015; production will end November 2018. Subsequently, timings for the Ford Escape (C482) have been adjusted at both Cuautitlán and Louisville Truck with SOP December 2018, a refresh for January 2022, and EOP for August 2024.
 

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● New/Changed:
— 19”PremiumPaintedAluminumWheel(646)–Nolonger
optional on Reserve
AWD
(300A)
— 19”PremiumPainted5-SpokeAluminumWheel(647)–
Now optional on Reserve AWD (300A)
— 20”PolishedAluminumWheelswithEbonyPainted
Pockets – New Description
— 18”PolishedAluminumWheelonReserve(300A)
changed to Bright Machined – New Description
Power
liftgate standard on Premiere (100A)
● NewExteriorColors:
— Magnetic(J7)
— PalladiumGold(GN)
— DiamondBlack(W9)–AvailableonReserveonly(300A)
● DeletedColors: — N/A
INTERIOR/COMFORT
● New/Changed:
— CHANGED–Select(200A)–Cappuccino/Espresso
cabin
environment
– Santos Rosewood replaces
Espresso Ash Swirl appliques
— CHANGED–Select(200A)–Cappuccinocabin
environment – Santos Rosewood replaces Espresso Ash Swirl appliques
Cool, thanks for the info.
Heard this years Black Velvet not as nice as my Tuxedo Black (less flake-more flat) so wondering how this new black compares.. Darn, no green or unique colors..
Still no cool wheels it seems either, like the 21 inch fan blade MKX ones...

What about my beloved Hazelnut interior LOL? What do you know about that and its availability? Limited again?

How about Black Label changes?
Sorry again for all the questions...where do you get your info?
Thanks in advance...
 

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Thanks for that info blankster...
I'm not too impressed with the stop/start feature...especially if it also kicks in at a basic stop sign...think about it guys, really...how long is that stop...at worst 8 seconds at a 4 way stop and if YOU are the last of the 4 cars getting there....That would just drive me nuts...seamlessly or not,it's also adding load to the car's starter, coil gear in particular,essentially putting a massive duty cycle on that unit...Daily!

The visual changes to the exterior seem nice compared to the current 15's softer lines and much nicer grille...the interior changes also show promise...a lot of these choices are usually bunched with other features as a package...which also jacks up the cost....you know, you can't get this without the other feature ( says the salesman) So if you after upgraded seats you may be forced to also pay for xxx.
As much as I like features,I also find them distracting at times.....sometimes, less is more.

Personally, I find driving the C is an exercise in navigating the inside of a computer....sensory overload at times!!!
mmoretti, I did see the Tuxedo Black in person, and I agree with you...it IS a stunning colour, in the sunlight when those flakes catch the rays, it just comes alive,seriously a beautiful black, I think they are about to reduce the flake content in the new black and reduce it to a more conventional black,easier to colour match if repairs are needed!
 

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Thanks for that info blankster...
I'm not too impressed with the stop/start feature...especially if it also kicks in at a basic stop sign...think about it guys, really...how long is that stop...at worst 8 seconds at a 4 way stop and if YOU are the last of the 4 cars getting there....That would just drive me nuts...seamlessly or not,it's also adding load to the car's starter, coil gear in particular,essentially putting a massive duty cycle on that unit...Daily!

The visual changes to the exterior seem nice compared to the current 15's softer lines and much nicer grille...the interior changes also show promise...a lot of these choices are usually bunched with other features as a package...which also jacks up the cost....you know, you can't get this without the other feature ( says the salesman) So if you after upgraded seats you may be forced to also pay for xxx.
As much as I like features,I also find them distracting at times.....sometimes, less is more.

Personally, I find driving the C is an exercise in navigating the inside of a computer....sensory overload at times!!!
mmoretti, I did see the Tuxedo Black in person, and I agree with you...it IS a stunning colour, in the sunlight when those flakes catch the rays, it just comes alive,seriously a beautiful black, I think they are about to reduce the flake content in the new black and reduce it to a more conventional black,easier to colour match if repairs are needed!
Not reading good things about those stop start systems either....

Are there pictures of the visual changes? Meaning body style/lines?

I never saw this years velvet black up close but others commented not as nice as tuxedo... You saying the new diamond black is flatter too? The name "sounds" like it will be a sparkly black...
 

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Drove several 2015 Mercedes with the start/stop feature. In all models it could be turned on/off to suit individual preference.
Suspect (hope?) Ford would provide same option.
 
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