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Picked up our 2016 Reserve 300 last night. Looking forward to taking it for a bit of a road trip tonight picking up our daughter at college. Coming out of a loaded 2011 Ford Edge that had Sync 2. Sync 3 seems to be light years ahead! I will post additional observations and photos when time permits.

Platinum White with Wht Sands/Espresso
 

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Congrats. Wishing you trouble-free miles. We have the white on white too, but got the Select equipment package as my wife did not want a pano roof. Too bad the ventilated seats were not an option on the Select. That was the only "extra" the Reserve offered that she really wanted.

Anyway, after you get back from your trip, let us know what you think. We took ours on a day trip last Sunday and it was like driving/riding on a cloud.
 

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Congrats. Wishing you trouble-free miles. We have the white on white too, but got the Select equipment package as my wife did not want a pano roof. Too bad the ventilated seats were not an option on the Select. That was the only "extra" the Reserve offered that she really wanted.

Anyway, after you get back from your trip, let us know what you think. We took ours on a day trip last Sunday and it was like driving/riding on a cloud.
Well we took our first road (150 miles) and I must say my wife and I are very pleased. I have owned Cadillacs (CTS), Buicks (Riviera), Jeeps (Grand Cherokee), and Chryslers (300C), Fords (came out of a 2011 Edge) and Mercurys. The MKC is probably the nicest vehicle we have owned to date! We keep finding new features and little touches that separate Lincoln from other Ford Products. The MKC is more than a dolled-up Escape.

MKC value - Or MKC stickers for a little less then the 2010 CTS I had as a company car and the quality of the interior, ride and features blows the CTS away!

Performance - Steering is spot on! On-center feel is fantastic. This is the first vehicle I have had with electric steering and I am now a believer. Regarding the 2.3, the 305 ft lbs of torque means the vehicle does not have to downshift to moderately accelerate from 70 or hunt gears to maintain a crusing speed. I can't even detect the transmission shifting. You can really feel the power/torque compared to our former 2011 Edge with the 3.5. The IP cluster indicated 27 MPG averaging 65 MPH.

Ride and comfort - Church quite! Seats are fantastic! Ride control really works! The dash displays the ride mode (per the salesman the 2015 does not). We were in comfort mode for the whole trip and had no complaints. Looking forward to trying the other ride modes. Standard sound system is pretty nice! Still would like to see how the THX system performs

Sync 3 Vs Sync 2 - Its like having an IPAD in your dash. Voice commands work the first time! Lighting fast. Easy to understand! The pinch feature on the nav window is really nice for zooming in and out. Still have not connected the phones or setup the WIFI link for software updates. Also I need to go through the menus to see what other features are burried in there.

Overall Technology - Amazing how far vehicles have come in just 5 years compared to the 2011 Edge. For the safety features the technology package offers its really a nice to have. Especially the lane-keeping feature. With a vehicle like this with all potential distractions (and with me being a little older) I'm glad I got it.

Regarding the climate package - We will see how it works this winter.
 

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Thanks for posting your impressions Blankster. I have a 2016 on its way... I guess I feel like I already know what to expect having had the 2015... but I still like seeing other peoples viewpoints... especially on the 2016.

And yes... the 2015 dash would indicate whether you were in Sport, Normal or Comfort, with the rings around the two circles changing from no color for normal, blue for comfort and red for sport.

I am excited to spend more time with Sync3. I have had MFT since it came out... so I am ready for the change. I played with Sync3 in an Escape for about 20 mins... but that is not near enough time to really get a "everyday" feeling about how well it behaves vs. MFT.

Well we took our first road (150 miles) and I must say my wife and I are very pleased. I have owned Cadillacs (CTS), Buicks (Riviera), Jeeps (Grand Cherokee), and Chryslers (300C), Fords (came out of a 2011 Edge) and Mercurys. The MKC is probably the nicest vehicle we have owned to date! We keep finding new features and little touches that separate Lincoln from other Ford Products. The MKC is more than a dolled-up Escape.

MKC value - Or MKC stickers for a little less then the 2010 CTS I had as a company car and the quality of the interior, ride and features blows the CTS away!

Performance - Steering is spot on! On-center feel is fantastic. This is the first vehicle I have had with electric steering and I am now a believer. Regarding the 2.3, the 305 ft lbs of torque means the vehicle does not have to downshift to moderately accelerate from 70 or hunt gears to maintain a crusing speed. I can't even detect the transmission shifting. You can really feel the power/torque compared to our former 2011 Edge with the 3.5. The IP cluster indicated 27 MPG averaging 65 MPH.

Ride and comfort - Church quite! Seats are fantastic! Ride control really works! The dash displays the ride mode (per the salesman the 2015 does not). We were in comfort mode for the whole trip and had no complaints. Looking forward to trying the other ride modes. Standard sound system is pretty nice! Still would like to see how the THX system performs

Sync 3 Vs Sync 2 - Its like having an IPAD in your dash. Voice commands work the first time! Lighting fast. Easy to understand! The pinch feature on the nav window is really nice for zooming in and out. Still have not connected the phones or setup the WIFI link for software updates. Also I need to go through the menus to see what other features are burried in there.

Overall Technology - Amazing how far vehicles have come in just 5 years compared to the 2011 Edge. For the safety features the technology package offers its really a nice to have. Especially the lane-keeping feature. With a vehicle like this with all potential distractions (and with me being a little older) I'm glad I got it.

Regarding the climate package - We will see how it works this winter.
 

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Thanks for posting your impressions Blankster. I have a 2016 on its way... I guess I feel like I already know what to expect having had the 2015... but I still like seeing other peoples viewpoints... especially on the 2016.

And yes... the 2015 dash would indicate whether you were in Sport, Normal or Comfort, with the rings around the two circles changing from no color for normal, blue for comfort and red for sport.

I am excited to spend more time with Sync3. I have had MFT since it came out... so I am ready for the change. I played with Sync3 in an Escape for about 20 mins... but that is not near enough time to really get a "everyday" feeling about how well it behaves vs. MFT.
The dash actually says "Comfort".
 

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The dash actually says "Comfort".
Ohhh... gotcha... yeah I don't think the 2015 did that... just the differentiation of the colored rings. Cool! Does it say normal when in normal or nothing?
 

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RayoVac, my 2015 (built July 2014) display shows as you indicated above = blue rings and "Comfort" for Comfort mode, nothing for Normal mode and red rings and "Sport" for Sport mode.
 

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RayoVac, my 2015 (built July 2014) display shows as you indicated above = blue rings and "Comfort" for Comfort mode, nothing for Normal mode and red rings and "Sport" for Sport mode.
It was probably a running change for MY 2015. I will try other modes to see what is displayed later today or tomorrow.
 

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Rayo no MKX? I thought for sure you were going for it. Was that list you posted in MKX forum the reasons why?
Nope did not get the MKX... made the decision today to walk away from it. They could not figure out what was going on with the Adaptive LEDs and had no answers for all the missing menu items in the settings menu (autofold mirrors, digital speedo, distance notification for pre-collision etc.).

I did not want to buy it with something as significant as the Adaptive LEDs not working correctly and have to wait some indefinite amount of time for engineering to figure out what they have screwed up.

I figure at the end of the day had my 2015 MKC NOT been a lemon, I would still be driving it and be happy as I did like it a lot! So I saved $13K and found a loaded 2016 MKC. This way I get Sync3 as well. I figure when my lease is up, the MKX will have Sync3 and bug fixes, maybe I will re-evaluate getting one at that time.

Its been such a rollercoaster ride, I am just ready to drive something and be done with all this back and forth.
 

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Wow you are strong ;-). Even with all my issues (and there are more now rayo LOL) with my MKC I am still being sucked in by the REVEL and 360 camera among other things. Too bad they are not offered with the MKC.
But I also don't blame you either given your situation. Seeing the list you compiled on the MKX forum has definitely cooled my wanting the MKX (at least right away). It looks like another nightmare for you after what you went through with your first MKC and think...there are not many out yet..who knows what is more to come out as far as problems with them. I doubt you will have that experience this time around with this MKC and why not have a positive one before dropping that 63K. Like you said (and in your case you're leasing so you know very soon down the line you will get the opportunity to get an improved, full featured MKX) you were happy and bought the MKC for a reason so better to be safe than sorry. But man, walking away from those seats, camera, and stereo(especially for me I'm a music freak) would have been hard for me..but then add in the missing features like you said and it would have made it easier. Again I thank you for your "diligence" and slapping that list up on the MKX forum, it was an eye opener and given my track record with Lincolns so far its great to know before considering buying...

Good luck with your MKC and glad you will be back in our forum(more- hopefully on good things no problems)! I'm sure you will still be monitoring the MKX stuff as will I...sigh..hopefully they will get it right one day soon....better be before my husband finally agrees to buy me my Evoque.
 

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Yes... it was very hard to make that decision. But at the end of the day it helped my rational by knowing I was saving $13K and I was getting Sync3. And again had my MKC not been a lemon, I would still be in it for another two years. So I look at it as an updated MKC (with 20"s and Sync3) for the same money... and heck after the buy back, I essentially drove my 2015 for near 9 months FREE.

But again.. yes, the seats were AWESOME, the Revell was spectacular. The 360 camera... was nice... but I am a pretty good at parking (perpendicular, I suck parallel) and the MKC being smaller... I have no issues throwing it into a space having only the rear view camera.

Wow you are strong ;-). Even with all my issues (and there are more now rayo LOL) with my MKC I am still being sucked in by the REVEL and 360 camera among other things. Too bad they are not offered with the MKC.
But I also don't blame you either given your situation. Seeing the list you compiled on the MKX forum has definitely cooled my wanting the MKX (at least right away). It looks like another nightmare for you after what you went through with your first MKC and think...there are not many out yet..who knows what is more to come out as far as problems with them. I doubt you will have that experience this time around with this MKC and why not have a positive one before dropping that 63K. Like you said (and in your case you're leasing so you know very soon down the line you will get the opportunity to get an improved, full featured MKX) you were happy and bought the MKC for a reason so better to be safe than sorry. But man, walking away from those seats, camera, and stereo(especially for me I'm a music freak) would have been hard for me..but then add in the missing features like you said and it would have made it easier. Again I thank you for your "diligence" and slapping that list up on the MKX forum, it was an eye opener and given my track record with Lincolns so far its great to know before considering buying...

Good luck with your MKC and glad you will be back in our forum(more- hopefully on good things no problems)! I'm sure you will still be monitoring the MKX stuff as will I...sigh..hopefully they will get it right one day soon....better be before my husband finally agrees to buy me my Evoque.
 

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Yes but it was right there in front of you and you even took it home overnight...I don't know (for myself) I would have probably caved and not want to give it back regardless LOL
That's why I'm personally trying to keep my distance from it..but my darn MKC keeps breaking so I'm constantly back at the dealer seeing them dammit...

But your consolation is a brand new MKC with SYNC3 like you said so its livable...
 

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RayoVac, my 2015 (built July 2014) display shows as you indicated above = blue rings and "Comfort" for Comfort mode, nothing for Normal mode and red rings and "Sport" for Sport mode.
Quick update rings turn red and "Sport" displays
 

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RayoVac, which MKX forum were you on? lincolnmkxforum.com? Or some other?
 

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Rayovac - I have not followed your history on this forum but since it sounds like you had a 15 with Sync 2 for awhile and now the 16 with the Sync 3, please give us your thoughts about the differences between the two...after you've had some time with the Sync 3. I am in a situation where I may be able to sell my 15 and buy a 16 (with the same options) and lose very little $ in the transaction.


What it mainly comes down to is that the two cars are basically about 90% the same, with the 10% difference being the Sync 3 vs the 2. Is it worth the trouble for me to go through the buying process again mainly to get the Sync 3? You seem to be perhaps the only person on this forum who will have spent considerable time with both systems and be able to provide an expert opinion.


Thank you!
 

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DK, (sorry this is a very long post.. I am a chatty guy) :wink

I don't actually have the new MKC yet, but should have it by Monday or Tuesday. And yes, I have been a Ford owner for over 30 years and have owned top level, Expeditions, Explorers, Edges and Escapes. Growing from the early Sync days into the very first MFT vehicles to now. My 2015 MKC of course had MFT, my 2012 Limited Edge had MFT, My Wifes 2013 Escape has MFT. I am a Network Security Engineer and although I don't consider myself a "propeller head"... I guess I am a bit geeky in that I like technology and am also a Audiophile/Home Theater Enthusiast.

I was really on the fence about ordering a 2016 MKX, which of course I did. One BIG dilemma was the lack of Sync3 and would I regret not getting it through the next 3 years of owning the MKX. I almost bought a Platinum F150... and had the very same issue. So before I ordered the MKX, I spent about 20 minutes playing with Sync3 in a 2016 Escape.

My initial take away was a little disappointment. I really see/saw Sync3 as an opportunity for Ford to do something great. New hardware, new software... do a TOTAL re-write, re-design. Get competitive with UConnect, Cue, iDrive and others that have impressive graphics and content display. Include IN-Vehicle data like GM does with a LTE modem or similar. Integrate Pandora, Aha, Slacker, Yelp and others and I mean integrate... don't require a bluetooth paired cell phone for these features to work. Support Apple Carplay and Android Auto.

But... to me, it seems like Ford missed the boat. When I looked at Sync3, its menus, layout and graphics simply seemed like they just ported what they had in MFT over to the new GNX Blackberry hardware. Sure some of the graphics and buttons changed a bit. But menu item for menu item if you know MFT you will be very familiar with Sync3.

Now I did pair my phone to that Escape... I fired up Pandora as my main test. To see how it integrates vs. how I do it (pandora) with MFT. Yes it was much better and more integrated. But again I came away thinking it was NOT that great of a difference to justify waiting on a 2017 MKX or 2017 F150 etc. So I ordered a 2016 MKX. But in waiting for it for soooooo long, I did a LOT of driving of other vehicles. BMW, Benz, Infiniti, Cadillac, Volvo, Buick, Lexus, Jeep, Chrysler.

In all these test drives, first thing I did was pair my phone and before even driving off the lot, I would sit for like 10 mins playing with the Infotainment and Dash Cluster menu systems. What it all this testing and playing did... was make me re-evaluate my thoughts on MFT. Sure I was going to suck it up and live with MFT for another 3 years. But when my MKX finally showed up and had all the problems... I walked away. I would save $13K by getting another MKC and by doing a 2016 now I get Sync3.

But remember, I did not think it was all that worth it? Well the one thing about Sync3... is future potential. MFT has NONE... there have been no real updates to MFT in near 3 years and frankly there won't be any... its pretty stable. And even though Sync3 right now appears as just a fancy port of MFT... it has TONS of potential to grow. Ford has already publicly announced it is working on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for Sync3.... this is HUGE! When Ford gets that in... the only real negative vs. GM would be the LTE/4G modem.

A few positive things that Sync3 is doing right now that MFT does not do is as mentioned before way better app integration, I only tested Pandora, but I think there are others. Better vehicle integration... meaning things like when you adjust the HVAC, Sync3 pops up info to show you what temp you have set, mode you have put it in etc. This was in an Escape... they may have even better integration in a Lincoln. And of course the BIG thing all the MFT haters of the world comment on.. Sync3 is much faster, almost instantaneous on button presses, function choices and although I did not test it in the Escape, reviews say voice integration is much better and I think it supports the long press Siri command type stuff.

Again... sorry for the very long post. But I will post some very specific details next week once I get my hands on it and drive it a day or two. For me... being a tech junkie and really addicted to this stuff... it would be VERY tempting if I could get out of your 2015 cleanly for the 2016 with Sync3. The other things about a 2016 is hopefully they will have fixed, bettered, remedied the following first year issues: Sirius Satellite Reception, Heated Seats, Tranny Shift issues, Twitchy Steering in Sport and other current 2015 common complaints.


Rayovac - I have not followed your history on this forum but since it sounds like you had a 15 with Sync 2 for awhile and now the 16 with the Sync 3, please give us your thoughts about the differences between the two...after you've had some time with the Sync 3. I am in a situation where I may be able to sell my 15 and buy a 16 (with the same options) and lose very little $ in the transaction.


What it mainly comes down to is that the two cars are basically about 90% the same, with the 10% difference being the Sync 3 vs the 2. Is it worth the trouble for me to go through the buying process again mainly to get the Sync 3? You seem to be perhaps the only person on this forum who will have spent considerable time with both systems and be able to provide an expert opinion.


Thank you!
 

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Rayo, I love the detail and all the info! After you get the car, please take your time evaluating the Sync 3, and I look forward to your review. I wonder if it's possible that when Ford starts using Apple or Android for the operating system, could they completely scrap the SYNC and go to a whole new system that would not be compatible with Sync 3's. What I'm saying is , could it be possible that say 2016 and 17 owners could be out of luck? Since the Sync name does not have the best impression, perhaps they will just scrap it from a marketing stand pointall and go with something new...again, since you said the Sync 3 is not that much different from the 2?


Well, in any case, here are things I wish my Sync 2 had...and yes, some of them are just pet peeves:


1. Better voice command so that it can pick up natural spoken phrases instead of only being able to use a set amount of built-in requests.


2. My wife and I both trade off on which car we use because sometimes it's a convertible day and sometimes ya need more room and we turn to the MKC. In my VW (no, it's not a diesel :) )the car automatically picks up which phone is in the car. No picking a main phone like the MKC has, and then when the main phone is not used you have to go through 3 or 4 steps and about 40 seconds to connect the other phone. Pain in the...you know what.


3. My wife and I have iPhones - 6 & 5c and although both get text messages to appear on the screen and they will speak the message or just display it on the screen, neither one of us can actually send a text from their list of built in phrases. I've tried everything I can to get this to work but it won't and the dealership service folks have not been able to fix it.


4. As you've written about, I also want full Pandora (and other apps like it ) capability, instead of the very limited function on the Sync 2.
5. And lastly (for now), yes, I'd love to have Siri.


So Ray, take your time and after you've had a chance to put it through it's paces, you can write pages and pages if you like...I love the detail, but I am not an IT kinda guy so you may need to spell out some things so I understand. As an example, you keep using the letters MFT and I don't know what that is?


Enjoy your 16 MKC when it arrives and take in that new car leather smell!
 
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