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I am a car dork. I went to the NAIAS today. Here are my thoughts...

Best brand new car- Lincoln Continental. I expected it to be larger, but I think I was thinking about Conti's of old. Still the most impressive new car; the interior even more so than the exterior.

Best refresh- Ford Fusion.

Best Concept- Buick Avista. They need to build this car and call it Riviera.

Best seats- Nissan Maxima. Super adjustable and super supportive.

Best display area- Lincoln. The Lincoln logo shaped lattice and the cream and cherry wood floor were beautiful. The Black Label room was nice and felt super fancy and elegant. The entire display made it seem special.

Worst display area- Toyota. No or low platforms with cars crammed into rows on carpet. Blech. Looked like an auto show pic from 25 years ago. And the lighting was so bright, i think my transitions lenses were turning.

Worst lighting- FCA- Chrysler/Fiat/Dodge/Ram/Alfa. The lights changed with the sound effects. Sometimes it was so dark it was hard to see the cars. My eyes were constantly adjusting. Maybe I am getting to be an old and cranky man.

Biggest disappointment- BMW. I couldn't tell many of them apart. Most seem way over priced. Maybe I would have to drive one to be fair. Runner up- Lexus. See description for BMW.

Surprises-

Fiat 500x- not as gimmicky as it looks in pictures. Nicely done interior.

Genesis G90- I felt like I just won the Apprentice.

Interior of the Kia Optima- Very premium. I love diamond stitched leather.

Buick Envision- looked premium and European. Right-size.

Chevy Malibu- nicely done. Attractive. Take the best styling cues from Optima and Chrysler 200. Fantastic interior.

Honda Civic- larger than expected. Nice interior. More of a compact+.

Best looking models- FCA.

Best looking product specialist- Nissan.

Worst product specialist for a thousand reasons- Cadillac. This guy was Beverly Leslie. He had snow white hair. He had the ever so 1970's pinky ring. Come on, Cadillac. You've come so far shedding the old man car image. Why the regression?

Most annoying models/product specialists - Lincoln. They were loud and laughing with the public like they were at a loud bar.

Most ashy/ dry kneed model- I don't remember the car she was in front of because all I kept thinking is how bad she needed some CeraVe and how much those knees must hurt!

Complete Snooze fest- completely.
Acura
Infinity
VW
Toyota
Scion
Mercedes-Benz
Subaru
Smart

Honorable mentions, just random cars I liked-
Volvo XC90
Volvo XC60
Honda Fit- so big for a little car.
Nissan Maxima- I like this car. A lot.
Alfa Romeo Giulia- I love saying Quadrifoglio.
Fiat 124 Spider
Audi A3, A4, Q5
Chrysler 200- very premium interior, esp for the segment.
GMC Acadia
Lincoln MKZ 2017 refresh

So these are my thoughts. What are yours? Agree or disagree?
 
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CanYouMKCmeNow...great write up and model review,it will be in Toronto and I intend to head over with friends and check things out....I'm intrigued with the Lincoln Continental,photos I've seen so far I killed...still on the french with the new grille,The interior looks stunning, can't wait!
I'm very interested in the Volvo XC90....all reviews I read on are are pretty positive,still not sure on it's body lines, but then Volvo never was cutting edge with body style,although they seem to be getting away from the "boxy" styles.
I've seem pics of most of the brands/models you mentioned...but it's quite different seeing them in person...was the floor crazy busy? usually the one in Toronto is HUGE and very busy place,all week long...
Thanks for the review!
 
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I got there today at 10:20 am. There was no parking anywhere. I ended up parking at my work and taking the People Mover (an above ground train that takes you through downtown Detroit) over to Cobo Center. It was very busy but comfortable. Despite what you may hear, Detroiters are pretty friendly and courteous at events like these. I had a lot of fun and so glad I got to go.
 

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I think it happens first week of Feb here, itching to go too....I love auto shows just get a lil overwhelmed with the huge crowds.
 

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Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures. I was having too much fun getting in and out of cars. But my friend did. As soon as I get the photos I will post them.
 

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That be awesome,look forward to them!
 

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I went on Tuesday.

I thought the new Continental is very ugly. I like the MKX, but the Titanium Edge is nearly the same.

The hit of the show for me was the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio. Fantastic style, proper dimensions for a true sports sedan, off the chart power to weight and every conceivable go fast bit. The Ford GT350R, BMW M2 and Porsche Cayman GT4 were honorable mentions.
 

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My dealer told me they have 2 GT350R....on order, expecting them sometime early spring they tell me.
Goes to show you though, see that's 2 totally diverse views from 2 different members.....one likes the Continental, the other thought it's very ugly! todd92....what did you not like with the Conti? did you find it garish? too much chrome? proportions not right...love to hear the reasons, thanks todd92
 

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Got to see a "mini" car show at ft Myers airport this week. They had high end luxury cars displayed all over. No one in the airport so I could look (except my husband yelling at me to keep moving through the airport LOL)

Finally saw the new Maserati up close and the interior....huge screen. Almost looks like a tesla interior. The exterior design is nothing overwhelming though imo.

Everyone talking about the Volvo and although I love their safety and tech there has never been one Volvo car I thought looked cool. No offense to anyone but I've always found them to be literally UGLY. I don't know exactly, the boxiness, lack of anything eye catching, station wagon-ish.... Just never been my cup of tea. Too bad though because the rest of the car and features look awesome.
 

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My mom & dad were Volvo fans...dad had several over the years...us kids always hated how they looked...
One of my clients bought herself a Tesla S...and took me for a spin...insane power and pickup, incredible upscale interior...did NOT like the size of the Tablet screen...it's just so huge...car was whisper quiet...she also bought the two charging stations...the overnight trickle charge...and the faster 2 hr full charger...I had asked her if she had any problems with it so far...said the retracting seat mechanicals to the driver's seat had to be replaced because they just jammed...paint is exquisite no orange peel effect of any sort...it compares to paints found on Rolls Royce....Maseratti are beautiful sedans...heavy but beautiful....did I mention expensive!
 

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One I was looking at was 85k. Nice brownish color, tan interior. Not terrible
My neighbor had an Xmas guest with a new tesla Wow never would have imagined the interior would be so nice. The screen is a little overwhelming at first but with my eyesight I'd be loving it. It blends in with the dash too. Still a little on the fence about how MB and Lexus has there screens kind of pop out if the dash and stick out....

Heard the tesla suv they have been trying to get out there is a mechanical nightmare and all kinds of problems with them trying to get a sub compact sub out there
 

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My dealer told me they have 2 GT350R....on order, expecting them sometime early spring they tell me.
Goes to show you though, see that's 2 totally diverse views from 2 different members.....one likes the Continental, the other thought it's very ugly! todd92....what did you not like with the Conti? did you find it garish? too much chrome? proportions not right...love to hear the reasons, thanks todd92
Garish, chrome, bloated Town Car lines. This car is clearly designed for the Chinese market, where overstyled, garish chrome is expected and desired.
 

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I was NOT impressed by those massive chrome door handles. Fugly, ugly and garish all rolled into one. I have never seen anything to open a door that LARGE lol....I also am no fan on the new grille,like the current one better ( wings)...but then, there might be others that would LOVE them!
" Honey, lets buy the new Lincoln Continental....WHY???, those door handles are so cool" LOL!
 

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I really like Volvo and I hope they do well. The S90 was beautiful.But I agree with the many comments about the rear end being um, less than attractive.
 

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I never did get a chance to write or post about the L.A. show, but agree with the above comments about the Giulia Quadrifoglio. It was seductive.

As far as the Lincoln display, sounds like it might have been a smaller scale version of the NAIAS set up: they had 1 MKC, 1 Navigator, and 2 MKXes on the main floor, all white. The blue Continental concept was there (wish it had the production version, but I know the big reveals are always at NAIAS) and 3 2017 MKZs on the main turntables - one black, one white and one in an intriguing deep grey, almost flat but with just a hint of metallic. The Rep said it was called Jade, but there was no hint of green to it to my eye. It had the Black Label black "Z" on the trunk lid and the interior was a decided upscale improvement to the current Z. Beautiful quilted stich leather, contrasting color inserts and piping and a combo of wood and aluminum inserts on the dash and console. I had posted an earlier question after seeing the first online pics of the 2017 Z about the "stiching" on the center horn pad of the steering wheel and whether it would look tacky in that molded vinyl pad - well, it doesn't because it's not molded vinyl; it's a leather covered pad. Nice. The Revel speaker grilles on the doors were quite intricate, similar to the M-B Burmester system in their cars.

I'm still undecided about the new grille, but will say I liked it better in person on the new Z than in pictures. What was interesting is that on the grey and black Zs it was shiny chrome, but the white Z had a slight "blackened chrome" or argent painted version which was a nice touch - a little sportier; more contrasting to the light paint and rest of the chrome trim on the front of the car.

They also had a separate Black Label lounge with an espresso bar and an MKX Thoroughbred theme in Chroma Elite in there. A beautiful combo, though the Chestnut leather in that theme is only used on the dash and console. Wish it had been used more on the seats as well.

All in all, it was a good display; though, as I'm not a fan of white, black or silver cars, there was far too much white for my taste. I understand that it's a "look" they probably wanted for the overall display; but doesn't work for me. It was also very forward-focused for the brand as there was no MKS, no MKT or not even a current MKZ.

As far as the rest of brands & new vehicles that are MKC class or competitors go, there was the GLC, Q30, Evoque convertible, XT5, 2017 Escape & Jaguar F-pace (which I think is more MKX sized than MKC). None of them were unlocked or available to sit in except the GLC. The Q30 had a couple turntable models with the doors open, but that's as close as you could get. They didn't have the new Buick CUV or any info on a new Q5. (I tried adding pics onto this post, but keep getting an error message...maybe I'll try starting a new thread altogether)
 
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Km is that jade color an exclusive to the black label mkz? Just saw a jeep that looked kind of like what you are describing. Awesome color.

Agree I think when some people actually see the grille in person that they may like it more. I really like the Lincoln link design. I get its very similar to the others but I find the "Lincoln links" unique. Throw in the lighted Lincoln symbol and those headlights and I think you may come up with a different opinion (for the doubters)

I do however have concerns on how this new grille will translate to the Cs and Xs. I do like the split wing grille on them. What to do? LOL. looks like the grill change is happening no matter what according to the article someone posted. So like it or not... :-(. All we can do is wait and see how they apply it to the SUVs and hope they pull it off. And I guess if you like the split wing so much take care of your current mkc and plan to keep it as long as you can :)

Agree that I don't like chrome as much with a white vehicle. Overall I'm not a fan of white at all either sorry I find it boring..... Completely blacked out looks cooler on white imo. Thought choice of white for the continental reveal was eeegh...but I get some people consider white to be "classy" so perhaps that's what they were going for. Thought the concept in NYC in blue was much more stunning. Love the functionality of the new conti's door handles but I think I'm agreeing with candy on the "largeness" of them. I'm a big fan of no door handles at all. Just make it a little sensor or let us pop it open with our phones.

Black, silver, and white - the most popular colors but my least favorites too. I did not set out to get another black car (had a couple but the blacks i had were metallic and stunning when cared for, plus I like the contrasts) I ended up back at black with my mkc because I could not live without the hazelnut interior. Seriously LOL. But once I saw how really awesome the black is in the sun, I am not sorry. The sparkle from that paint can be seen for 20 ft parked. I have had more comments about my black color than my husband had when he was one of the first to get an "orange" (sunset color name actually) car. People remark about the flake and sparkle everywhere I go. I am completely surprised. Overall I think the car itself lends itself (or not) to certain colors. I initially thought I was coming home with a red car this time when I began my car search but once I decided on the mkc I felt the red washed out the awesome tail light too much..so red was out... But only for the mkc.

I like unique colors. Nothing crazy but have to agree that MKX chroma elite/ thoroughbred was probably stunning. Seems like such a great combo but I too am disappointed that there is less of the chestnut.

Curious to see chroma elite, bronze fire, and chroma couture (dark brown) all lined up for comparisons. I'm big on the Browns right now but would love to see a green color in there! I did see the chroma couture - nice., dark, metallic.

Yeah, post some pics if you can.
 

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The MKX Black Label thoroughbred is amazing in person. Stunning color on the dash and armrest.
 

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I do have say that Ford's Tuxedo Black with all the flake that was in it was one of the better blacks I've ever seen on a car. It's a shame they have moved on from it. Did you know that Ford had an issue with supply on that paint after the Japanese earthquake/tsunami a couple years ago because the paint, or some element in it came from that region of Japan? (or that's a story I heard, anyway...)

While I'm not partial to black, I do like very dark colors, like my Midnight Sapphire - blue has always been a favorite color of mine - or the Chroma Couture, which looks very nice. And I'd buy that blue on the Continental concept in a New York minute! I also like Ford's Kodiak Brown - which also seems to have a lot of flake in it like the Tuxedo Black. And when the MKS first came out a few years ago, they had a color called Cinnamon, a dark metallic rust, which I really liked. The Chroma Elite is a lighter rust color, but I do like it as well. However, Bronze Fire and another color Ford had a year or two called Sunset, I think, were misses for me though. They didn't use enough clearcoat or contrasting flake or layers or something. They lacked depth.

Also, I was mistaken...the seats in the new MKZ are not "quilted" in their stitching like an M-B, a Bentley or an Infiniti, but rather they use a new perforation pattern that mimics the Lincoln emblem and the new grille (same on the new Continental, I think). Nice touch!
 

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Oh, and I was invited to a focus group in 2013 where we were shown early versions of the Continental and another potential future Lincoln and they had three different working models of new kinds of door handles for us to try, including the one they've used on the new car. Trust me...those new handles on the Continental are cool and worked well on the model. And the back seat is a very, very nice environment indeed. Very roomy - and I'm 6'2" and have issues with back seats almost always. I think the Chinese are correct on that score - riding in the back with a driver to chauffeur you would be pretty nice.
 

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I really liked that brown they had. I saw it on a Taurus when I bought my Fusion in 2013. I have always had black or silver of late. Previous cars were black, blue, red or white. I also like that red on the MKZ. Not the Black Label red (although it is nice) but the regular red, ruby red I think it is called.
 
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