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Some something else to go wrong with the car :) And when the butler gives the wrong information...are you going to sue him virtually? LOL
 

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Some something else to go wrong with the car :) And when the butler gives the wrong information...are you going to sue him virtually? LOL
I know LOL They do say its early production and they are still working on it.

One day the tech in cars wil get better, I know it. Think of it (my wife is in the tech field). Long ago computers were so complicated and the software was as well. My wife used to make ridiculous money that now equates to minimum wage high schooler being able to support today's technology on the same level. The technology and software today are ions better than it was even just 10 years ago and it continues to improve. And so does the "bank" of skilled people to support it. My wife has watched the tech field and her job evolve.

Now support has greatly been reduced by the better technology. This will happen with cars too. It's the future, it's what people want in their cars these days (at least I think in my generation and younger for sure, it's what we grew up on)

So I look forward to all the new tech and just like in the old days of a Windows blue screen of death (which I used to see on a regular basis and can't even remember the last problem I had now) the days of the buggy car tech will get better too. Have hope!:smile. It's only going to get cooler and better from here, I can't wait!
 

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I have been in I.T. for 35 years so I have seen all the changes that have taken place as well. Geez, when I was taking computer science in university we were still using punch cards as the data input! There were no screens LOL Computers have come a LONG way but with all the advancement, different platforms, etc. so have all the problems getting all the systems to talk to each other.....diagnosing problems is a whole other issue. It is only going to get worse in my opinion.
 

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I have been in I.T. for 35 years so I have seen all the changes that have taken place as well. Geez, when I was taking computer science in university we were still using punch cards as the data input! There were no screens LOL Computers have come a LONG way but with all the advancement, different platforms, etc. so have all the problems getting all the systems to talk to each other.....diagnosing problems is a whole other issue. It is only going to get worse in my opinion.

Gotta have some hope these young kids getting into the field as time goes by will get better at diagnosing just like techs get better. I tell you my wife's been reading the manual and is totally hooked. She wants to go be a car tech now! She loves cars and tech, and now cars are all tech, how perfect she says.
What a :nerd
With all this troubleshooting with Lincoln I thinks she's qualified LOL. At least more than the poor tech at the dealership. Kind of feel bad, don't mean to make fun...
 

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Unfortunately my experience with the younger I.T. professionals has not been so positive. In my generation, we analyzed, designed, programmed, tested, debugged and repeated until we made sure that everything worked flawlessly. These days they want to get everything built and out to the public as quickly as possible and skip a lot of steps thereby sacrificing quality and resulting in a lot more problems. With all these systems trying to talk to each other, it makes diagnosis very very difficult. Everyone starts putting the blame on the 'other' system. There are just too many variables. For example my bank (Royal Bank of Canada) has a mobile app which worked just fine, quickly and easily. A couple of weeks ago they come out with a new app, more graphics, pictures, etc. claiming better functionality. Well in the first week their customers (including me) were in an uproar - users could not sign onto the app, it timed out. If they could sign on then the app didn't function correctly, etc. Customers were unable to do their banking! And this from the largest bank in Canada! Why didn't they just leave things well enough alone or do a lto more testing? The old app worked...no one was complaning about it. Why fancy it up with pictures and fancy graphics which makes it run slower? I would rather have functionality over 'prettiness'.
 

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That's outright silliness....really? a virtual butler.....in a CAR!!!!!! yeah I can see Bentley owners going to their dealership complaining the "Butler" keep screwing up the dry martini's and wants it reprogrammed LOL.....How stupid does it have to get before it starts to get better!....can't stop laughing here!
 

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Unfortunately my experience with the younger I.T. professionals has not been so positive. In my generation, we analyzed, designed, programmed, tested, debugged and repeated until we made sure that everything worked flawlessly. These days they want to get everything built and out to the public as quickly as possible and skip a lot of steps thereby sacrificing quality and resulting in a lot more problems. With all these systems trying to talk to each other, it makes diagnosis very very difficult. Everyone starts putting the blame on the 'other' system. There are just too many variables. For example my bank (Royal Bank of Canada) has a mobile app which worked just fine, quickly and easily. A couple of weeks ago they come out with a new app, more graphics, pictures, etc. claiming better functionality. Well in the first week their customers (including me) were in an uproar - users could not sign onto the app, it timed out. If they could sign on then the app didn't function correctly, etc. Customers were unable to do their banking! And this from the largest bank in Canada! Why didn't they just leave things well enough alone or do a lto more testing? The old app worked...no one was complaning about it. Why fancy it up with pictures and fancy graphics which makes it run slower? I would rather have functionality over 'prettiness'.

I had to get my wife to decipher, I'm only technical "by association" LOL.
She said in a time in her career she worked "systems integration", which in non geek speak apparently means making all different "systems" to play nice with each other. Hmm, sounds like fun, NOT! That's what she's fascinated with the car right now, she's geeking out on how all the systems in the car communicate and work together :nerd:nerd

My take on technology is in a completely different field. My businesses are machining and I've watched my father start the businesses with simple machines like punch presses, machines with buttons and levers. My staff needed only basic skills and training took an hour maybe. Then it started to move into CNC machining and more computer control Now our shops are filled with the most technology advanced laser machines, all highly computer controlled. I've flown all over Europe to source and be trained in the technology which I then in turn have the responsibility of training staff on these machines( so I guess I am VERY technical but only when it comes to my machines) I'm talking 10 million dollar machines that take up half a warehouse.

So now to train each guy in my shop is a huge investment. It requires higher skill and more time. Then after I invest in a guy and he gets good he decides this career is not for him or just decides to find another job..and I'm starting all over again. It's very frustrating and $ consuming for my businesses. Then there's the learning curves and literally million dollar mistakes as you go along.

I wonder if this sort of thing (turnover, low skill level) is common in the auto industry too. In that case I have less hope things will get better :smile but I do still have hope, as the NY METS say "you gotta believe" LOL.
 

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That's outright silliness....really? a virtual butler.....in a CAR!!!!!! yeah I can see Bentley owners going to their dealership complaining the "Butler" keep screwing up the dry martini's and wants it reprogrammed LOL.....How stupid does it have to get before it starts to get better!....can't stop laughing here!

It's actually a little creepy if you think of it, some dude in your back seat.
But I love technology and it is pretty incredible if they pull something like that off.
 

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Companies spend a fortune training their employees to learn technology. They need to provide an environment where the employees want to stay and make a career with them. At one time the longer the time you were employed with a company was looked at as a positive. Now many companies, especially technology oriented, look at employee longetivity as a negative as they think the person does not have entrepreneurial skills....in other words the more times you change employers is a good thing. Just seems crazy to me...guess I am getting too old.
 

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Companies spend a fortune training their employees to learn technology. They need to provide an environment where the employees want to stay and make a career with them. At one time the longer the time you were employed with a company was looked at as a positive. Now many companies, especially technology oriented, look at employee longetivity as a negative as they think the person does not have entrepreneurial skills....in other words the more times you change employers is a good thing. Just seems crazy to me...guess I am getting too old.
You are so right there! Companies save money by recycling cheaper employees and don't care about the consequences. In my industry we actually try like **** to bend over backwards to make the good ones stay. But I have to be honest, a lot of the jobs in my shop (if you aren't a highly skilled laser operator) aren't high level and I can only pay so much for that skill. It becomes boring and dead end for the guys (although I have some guys content doing that forever). We try to pick the motivated ones and train them for the higher skill, pay, responsibility but then I get whacked when they decide to leave. The people that stay long term and we've had long term (25+ years) have been our engineers and some management. It's kind of the nature of some of our business. Kids come in learn some things then move on if we are lucky we get someone who really likes it and has a passion for it and stays. We've tried incentive programs, more vacation time for staying, we have picnics parties, try everything to create a more "fun" work environment and comoraderie with the guys. Unless someone is a real screw up we try to work with them and keep that training investment and keep them happy. BUT as a business owner we do have to pay the bills and turn a profit to support my family so we just can't pay people anything they wish or always promote them where they want to be unless they are committed and contributing to the company. I hate losing a good guy more than anything and will always do what I can to keep them around. It costs more money in lost time and training to bring in a new guy than to work with a guy I already got.

Now that we've gotten completely off topic..ha ha. But it is the off topic lounge :grin:grin
 

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It's actually a little creepy if you think of it, some dude in your back seat.
But I love technology and it is pretty incredible if they pull something like that off.
The idea itself is fantastic....but I think in the great scope of things as they now stand, manufactures NEED to establish solid protocols regarding tech components that can actually communicate with one another, repeatedly and for the most part....flawlessly... as in the case of the issues your mkc 's modem is going through...
You would believe, as a consumer, that these aspects of integration are well under control, but to me it seems far from it!
I'm intrigued by tech as a means to an end, as far as technology within cars advances forward...I think they need to better the level of "reliability" for the average consumer.....just seeing what you guys are going through with the modem issues is enough to scare the average car owner away....It is the reality in my case why I chose to NOT get the Lincoln APP, and attempt to use it...
At the very least, one must have a clear understanding of this technology to even attempt to use it, I know I don't...
I use the fob features to start, lock and a few other things with in, not because I do not like the practicality the APP would offer me as a consumer, but because of these same EXACT nightmares you guys are experiencing...especially knowing your wife is an IT person,and yet this issue persists!
I think the auto manufacturing segment REALLY needs to stop rushing product to market till they have tech things running pretty seamlessly for the average consumer....after all, we cannot all be IT guys LOL.
Oh, and what happens when Mr Butler screws up your VERY dry martini LOL!
 

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After driving my wife's car and finally getting to use the adaptive cruise control technology I don't know how anyone cannot embrace all this new tech coming out. I'm not a geek about tech like my wife but I certainly love using the convenience of the features.

Adaptive cruise control is one for sure. I don't know about moving to completely automated because I like to actually drive. But wow how awesome was it on a long highway trip. So nice not having to hit the brake and reset, it was so relaxing!
What I wouldn't give to have that on our motorhome! My next car will definitely have that. Worthwhile feature for anyone doing long highway drives.
 

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Forgot to add to this thread about technology...

Did I see the Hyundai commercial (think it's a bear chasing a man ) correctly? Can you really voice command start your car?!?
 

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Hyundai again!
Hyundai Planning Connected Car That Repairs Itself

I'm pretty impressed with Hyundai and how they developed...
I know many people who have had many trouble free hyundais.

If only my wife liked their interiors...finds them a little too plastic and cheap, interiors are her thing but when she drove their SUVs she was pretty impressed too. Hyundai has come a long way from when we used to joke about them being cheap cars...
 

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LOL Tony.....I agree with you on that, bizarre is putting it mildly!
 
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