Who is getting a 2016 on this forum
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I have a MKc on order from 17 June with theoretical build week in late July (perhaps my MKc will be built on my 60th birthday)
As stated in the intro area, I opted for the 2016 because of my research on this site suggested second generation should have many of the bugs worked out:
Start button, Sync, Antenna, transmission software, etc
On other sites early reviews of the Sync 3 are promising
I am also a Ford owner who has followed the development of their various engines for last 30 years and I used to own one of the early Triton V-10 in a F250. Later I bought a F350 with the newer three valve V-10 and was amazed at how much better it was.
What I read about the development of the EcoBoost series, and the (relatively) rapid refinement and updating, encourages me to think FoMoCo has a good engine to help them achieve 2017/2020 CAFE requirements (30MPG avg) and still provide us with a capable engine
As stated in the intro area, I opted for the 2016 because of my research on this site suggested second generation should have many of the bugs worked out:
Start button, Sync, Antenna, transmission software, etc
On other sites early reviews of the Sync 3 are promising
I am also a Ford owner who has followed the development of their various engines for last 30 years and I used to own one of the early Triton V-10 in a F250. Later I bought a F350 with the newer three valve V-10 and was amazed at how much better it was.
What I read about the development of the EcoBoost series, and the (relatively) rapid refinement and updating, encourages me to think FoMoCo has a good engine to help them achieve 2017/2020 CAFE requirements (30MPG avg) and still provide us with a capable engine
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Before buying, I looked through the 2016 order book. The only major difference between 2015 and 2016 is the Sync 3 update. Other changes are the deletion of 5 exterior colors and the addition of 3 new ones, the 2.3L can tow 3K pounds, and a greater restriction on the hazelnut interior (only available with black, white or ingot silver exterior). Elsewhere in this forum I've read that there is a change to the 2.0L engine, but if so it's not mentioned in the order guide. The 2016 window stickers indicate the same MPG ratings for the 2016. After some searching, I found a 2015 with all the options I wanted and bought in on June 1. Absolutely no regrets here. At least in my area, there is still a lot of 2015 inventory available. You'll probably be able to work a better deal on a 2015 with little advantage for spending more on a 2016.Do we know what all will be different for the 2016 version? Is their a thread?
Are all the 2015 owners kicking themselves because the 2016 is better?
Yes, it's really only the sync 3 it seems. I'm surprised such a restriction with hazelnut... What's up with that. Maybe I am one of the few that loved the color. I've mostly had black interiors and it was such a nice change. Is the terra cotta color that they have for the new MKX a new interior color for MKC too? I think there's a cappuccino too from Lincoln (if you are into the Browns) too.
The reason I think FoMoCo will change much of the software, including the transmission is the relatively low "on the road" number of MKc and all the returns to dealer by owners with some issue with the tranny.
You can bet they see trends, and they know very well that owner satisfaction translates into co-worker, friends, and family sales. The last thing they want in the entry level luxury brand is "shifts like a truck" or "scares the **** out of me" chit chat
Since 2001 or so FoMoCo has developed their Engine Control Modules (ECM) and transmission control computers to be interdependent. Most of the reasoning is to achieve lower emissions and increase (if only slightly) fuel efficiency. This also ties into the safety systems like ABS and traction control. Secondary but very important is driver experience:
Acceleration from stop empty or under load (applies a lot more to truck owners but translates to heavy car/suv drivers as well )
Freeway entrance and merge up-shifting
Highway passing down-shifting
There are other conditions where the engine and trans have to be efficient and predictable.
By now I hope you can see that the engineers have to program a lot of variables to make us LIKE the behavior of the entire power package
To this end, FoMoCo has spent a lot of research and development on ADAPTIVE computer hardware and software for the engine/power management. These are "smart" systems that can actually learn a drivers and cars needs and adapt the shifting strategies within the programmed parameters
So in my opinion, I bet since 2014, when the Mkc started being delivered, there have been many software updates as feedback for the dealers/owners started filtering in. One of the last steps as a vehicle comes off the production line is a "flash" software update to the ECM.
Additionally I know that a good Technician can hook up a computer to the OBDII/III port and tweak a fairly large amount of variables. Most of the time this will be done by the tech following a published update where he/she simply uploads a new "flash" that some software engineer wrote. BUT sometimes the tech will follow "steps" to change only one or two variables. Example changing "revs per mile" of a tire size to get the speedo and all the engine, trany, ABS systems in sync to do their safety thing
You can bet they see trends, and they know very well that owner satisfaction translates into co-worker, friends, and family sales. The last thing they want in the entry level luxury brand is "shifts like a truck" or "scares the **** out of me" chit chat
Since 2001 or so FoMoCo has developed their Engine Control Modules (ECM) and transmission control computers to be interdependent. Most of the reasoning is to achieve lower emissions and increase (if only slightly) fuel efficiency. This also ties into the safety systems like ABS and traction control. Secondary but very important is driver experience:
Acceleration from stop empty or under load (applies a lot more to truck owners but translates to heavy car/suv drivers as well )
Freeway entrance and merge up-shifting
Highway passing down-shifting
There are other conditions where the engine and trans have to be efficient and predictable.
By now I hope you can see that the engineers have to program a lot of variables to make us LIKE the behavior of the entire power package
To this end, FoMoCo has spent a lot of research and development on ADAPTIVE computer hardware and software for the engine/power management. These are "smart" systems that can actually learn a drivers and cars needs and adapt the shifting strategies within the programmed parameters
So in my opinion, I bet since 2014, when the Mkc started being delivered, there have been many software updates as feedback for the dealers/owners started filtering in. One of the last steps as a vehicle comes off the production line is a "flash" software update to the ECM.
Additionally I know that a good Technician can hook up a computer to the OBDII/III port and tweak a fairly large amount of variables. Most of the time this will be done by the tech following a published update where he/she simply uploads a new "flash" that some software engineer wrote. BUT sometimes the tech will follow "steps" to change only one or two variables. Example changing "revs per mile" of a tire size to get the speedo and all the engine, trany, ABS systems in sync to do their safety thing
Wow, thanks for really explaining what's going on with the transmission. I love learning more about the technical stuff going on...15 years in the computer/security/tech industry. Engines are almost like being in the tech industry these days it seems!
My MKC has very rough shifting particularly in the lower speeds. It also seems to "shudder" a bit when changing gears or sitting at a light. Not all the time though. The shifting wasn't all the time in the beginning (or maybe I didn't notice until I drove my old car again) but now at 7500k miles is consistently rough, even throwing me forward in my seat.
My car goes in in about a week for a bunch of things including the transmission shifts. Dealer says software update. Now after reading your post I hope they can tweak it correctly. At least I know now and if it comes back still shifting harshly I can ask them to look into that. I will let everyone know how it goes with my "fix".
My MKC has very rough shifting particularly in the lower speeds. It also seems to "shudder" a bit when changing gears or sitting at a light. Not all the time though. The shifting wasn't all the time in the beginning (or maybe I didn't notice until I drove my old car again) but now at 7500k miles is consistently rough, even throwing me forward in my seat.
My car goes in in about a week for a bunch of things including the transmission shifts. Dealer says software update. Now after reading your post I hope they can tweak it correctly. At least I know now and if it comes back still shifting harshly I can ask them to look into that. I will let everyone know how it goes with my "fix".
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Yeah..well my precious was built on 25 Jun, and the "concierge" sent an email on Monday basically saying "dont call us we will call you with the shipping date, good day lady" lol
My guess I wont see my precious in person until...23rd maybe. Although I wouldn't be upset if I got a call on July 16th. #wishfulthinking
My guess I wont see my precious in person until...23rd maybe. Although I wouldn't be upset if I got a call on July 16th.
#wishfulthinking
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your dealer is the one to talk to about updates..you can see a copy of the window sticker if you have the vin which you should have by nowYeah..well my precious was built on 25 Jun, and the "concierge" sent an email on Monday basically saying "dont call us we will call you with the shipping date, good day lady" lol
My guess I wont see my precious in person until...23rd maybe. Although I wouldn't be upset if I got a call on July 16th.
Yeah..well my precious was built on 25 Jun, and the "concierge" sent an email on Monday basically saying "dont call us we will call you with the shipping date, good day lady" lol
My guess I wont see my precious in person until...23rd maybe. Although I wouldn't be upset if I got a call on July 16th.
Rebecca it's built! It's built! :smile
Won't be long now...
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Head spinning...concierge called...it has been shipped should be here the week of July 12th...or before!
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Good question about hazelnut. For 2015, it was an available interior color for 6 of the 9 exterior colors. Had I ordered an MKC, I would have considered it since I thought it was a very attractive color in the photos I saw. None of the dealers I visited had an MKC on the lot with a hazelnut interior so I could see the actual material. No terra cotta option for the 2016 MKC. Just white, dark brown, black, and hazelnut--if, for the latter, you pick one of the limited exterior colors.
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