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Nice find, where did you find it at?
It says pricing is subject to change, how much do you expect it to change by if it does?
 

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Nice find, where did you find it at?
It says pricing is subject to change, how much do you expect it to change by if it does?
My wife works for one of Ford's "corporate partners". She can access such information directly through the company's intranet. As a spouse I qualify for X-Plan pricing, but I can't access the information directly myself. I'm hoping to have her price one with my exact configuration soon.
 

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when are you going to order ? :D
The test driving has begun and I am in the process of narrowing down choices. Grand Cherokee and Cherokee both out. Q5 TDI out. V60 makes the cut for now. Outback and Murano TBD. My dealer is getting a roaming MKC demo on 5/20, which I may or may not be able to drive. First allocations arriving end of May beginning of June. I'm the first in line for the Date Night test drive, but I'm not sure the dealership can use one of their first allocations for that.

I really, really liked the V60, but there are a couple things that bother me about it. If I like the MKC better than the V60, I might just say the heck with the Outback and Murano and order the MKC. I don't know when the Outback and Murano are expected to hit dealerships, so the timing will likely be a factor.
 

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So there is employee pricing that is even lower than the XPlan pricing?

It seems to me from reading the document posted in this thread that the XPlan is employee pricing, or at least employee pricing-plus since it applies to relatives and things like that.
 

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So there is employee pricing that is even lower than the XPlan pricing?

It seems to me from reading the document posted in this thread that the XPlan is employee pricing, or at least employee pricing-plus since it applies to relatives and things like that.
X plan is for suppliers and affiliates to FoMoCo. They have a different program specifically for employees, and I believe employee pricing is tiered as well. Head office/corporate employees receive a different plan than dealership employees...
 

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Q5 TDI is a great choice, have you had the chance to test one out as yet?
I have. I put about 30 miles on a TDI earlier this week. My wife's daily driver is a '12 Q5 2.0T, and I have to say I don't like some of the changes Audi made with the mid-cycle update. The brakes are a little spongy. Ultimate stopping power is OK, but there is too much pedal travel before you get results. I had a 2.0T loaner a couple weeks ago that felt the same. I could probably adjust, but the brakes weren't the only issue. I also don't like the new electric steering -- it's too light and the car feels like it wants to wander a bit on the highway. Again, probably not a deal-breaker by itself. But the most disappointing issue continues to be the laggy throttle response. It's not as bad as my BMW, but it's still there. And it's inconsistent. One time it goes, the next time it hesitates. It's clearly a programming issue, but every Audi I've driven for the last few years has been the same. (BMW's are even worse.) As for the powertrain, the 3.0L diesel and 8-speed auto are so good it's almost worth putting up with the other stuff. The endless torque and amazing fuel economy combined with legendary quattro AWD make it an ideal car for me ... on paper, that is. Sadly, I drive in the real world, and things like a lazy throttle irritate me to no end.
 

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I have. I put about 30 miles on a TDI earlier this week. My wife's daily driver is a '12 Q5 2.0T, and I have to say I don't like some of the changes Audi made with the mid-cycle update. The brakes are a little spongy. Ultimate stopping power is OK, but there is too much pedal travel before you get results. I had a 2.0T loaner a couple weeks ago that felt the same. I could probably adjust, but the brakes weren't the only issue. I also don't like the new electric steering -- it's too light and the car feels like it wants to wander a bit on the highway. Again, probably not a deal-breaker by itself. But the most disappointing issue continues to be the laggy throttle response. It's not as bad as my BMW, but it's still there. And it's inconsistent. One time it goes, the next time it hesitates. It's clearly a programming issue, but every Audi I've driven for the last few years has been the same. (BMW's are even worse.) As for the powertrain, the 3.0L diesel and 8-speed auto are so good it's almost worth putting up with the other stuff. The endless torque and amazing fuel economy combined with legendary quattro AWD make it an ideal car for me ... on paper, that is. Sadly, I drive in the real world, and things like a lazy throttle irritate me to no end.
We have an Audi in our household so I've driven several facelifted Q5s as loaner vehicles and I have been tremendously impressed with each one. I had not noticed the throttle issue at all -- perhaps I just need to spend more time driving one to notice that? The Q5s I drove all had smooth throttle response with barely perceptible turbo lag. Audi really hit it out of the park in my opinion with the Q5, but it's been out for a while and I want that brand new car factor. The MKC will be new and different, so that's one of the reasons why I am leaning MKC, but it's hard to fault the Q5 because it does so many things so well. I too am a big fan of that 8-speed transmission. I think it's manufactured by ZF for Audi.
 

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I have. I put about 30 miles on a TDI earlier this week. My wife's daily driver is a '12 Q5 2.0T, and I have to say I don't like some of the changes Audi made with the mid-cycle update. The brakes are a little spongy. Ultimate stopping power is OK, but there is too much pedal travel before you get results. I had a 2.0T loaner a couple weeks ago that felt the same. I could probably adjust, but the brakes weren't the only issue. I also don't like the new electric steering -- it's too light and the car feels like it wants to wander a bit on the highway. Again, probably not a deal-breaker by itself. But the most disappointing issue continues to be the laggy throttle response. It's not as bad as my BMW, but it's still there. And it's inconsistent. One time it goes, the next time it hesitates. It's clearly a programming issue, but every Audi I've driven for the last few years has been the same. (BMW's are even worse.) As for the powertrain, the 3.0L diesel and 8-speed auto are so good it's almost worth putting up with the other stuff. The endless torque and amazing fuel economy combined with legendary quattro AWD make it an ideal car for me ... on paper, that is. Sadly, I drive in the real world, and things like a lazy throttle irritate me to no end.
Thanks for the review. I haven't had the chance to drive one yet but will once im ready to make the move to finally deciding which SUV i really want to go with
 

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I have. I put about 30 miles on a TDI earlier this week. My wife's daily driver is a '12 Q5 2.0T, and I have to say I don't like some of the changes Audi made with the mid-cycle update. The brakes are a little spongy. Ultimate stopping power is OK, but there is too much pedal travel before you get results. I had a 2.0T loaner a couple weeks ago that felt the same. I could probably adjust, but the brakes weren't the only issue. I also don't like the new electric steering -- it's too light and the car feels like it wants to wander a bit on the highway. Again, probably not a deal-breaker by itself. But the most disappointing issue continues to be the laggy throttle response. It's not as bad as my BMW, but it's still there. And it's inconsistent. One time it goes, the next time it hesitates. It's clearly a programming issue, but every Audi I've driven for the last few years has been the same. (BMW's are even worse.) As for the powertrain, the 3.0L diesel and 8-speed auto are so good it's almost worth putting up with the other stuff. The endless torque and amazing fuel economy combined with legendary quattro AWD make it an ideal car for me ... on paper, that is. Sadly, I drive in the real world, and things like a lazy throttle irritate me to no end.
Yea I wasn't a massive fan of the 2013 Escapes electric steer either. It didnt feel or want to wander, but inputs felt strange. You know how with a hydraulic system you can feel the direct effect of your srteering inputs, with the escape it just felt like you needed to exaggerate inputs before you had noticeable results.

Hopefully the MKC does not suffer from this. Although I do remember reading somewhere that the steering rack and front track were two areas that Lincoln put a ton of dev work into....
 

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Hopefully the MKC does not suffer from this. Although I do remember reading somewhere that the steering rack and front track were two areas that Lincoln put a ton of dev work into....
Yes, my understanding is that the MKC steering should differ significantly from the Escape.
 

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Thanks for the review. I haven't had the chance to drive one yet but will once im ready to make the move to finally deciding which SUV i really want to go with
I don't know what it's like where you are, but TDI's can be pretty difficult to find on dealer lots in my area. I decided to test drive one when I had the opportunity out of fear I wouldn't be able to find one to drive back-to-back with the MKC. I hope to be able to drive one again closer to purchase time, but if not at least I got a feel for it.
 
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